Interesting question.
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Interesting question.
Since Sorcerers are the Priests of Niami, they just access her magic in a different manner than most Priests, would that make Druids the Priests of the Elder God(dess) of creation for their universe? They do access the power of the land and creation through the All.
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Re: Interesting question.
About time someone asked that. I've all but smashed it over your heads. ;)
Druids are INDIRECTLY the priests of Ayise, the goddess of creation. They tap into the All, which is nothing but the energy of Ayise that resides within the world, and amplified by the presence of life. They're using Ayise's power, but not directly...think of Druids as leeches that have managed to learn how to siphon off one aspect Ayise's power without her direct blessing. Ayise doesn't directly sponsor the Druids, but she's aware of them and allows them to touch her power, mainly because they're very careful about how they use it, and it tends to kill the ones that aren't. As long as they continue to approach Druidic magic with the same respect for its power, she'll continue to allow them to do it.
That is why nothing is impossible where Druidic magic is concerned...because they're accessing the power of the goddess the created the universe.
There's an All in Pyrosia too, the physical aspect of the power of the Elder god of that world. As those of you who read the last chapter know, Tarrin has considered trying to tap that power and use it to stop the Demon Lord, but he also knows it'll kill him. The All in Pyrosia doesn't have the sentient will behind it that the All in Sennadar DOES, because that sentience is an aspect of Ayise's allowing the Druids to use her power. The hand of Ayise guides every Druidic spell, it is HER that the Druids find in their minds when they're feeling the All touch them to read their image and intent. The All of Pyrosia lacks this sentience, because the Elder God of Pyrosia is either asleep, dead, or no longer cares about the world he created. That's why it would kill Tarrin to touch the All of Pyrosia, because HE would have to provide that guidance for the power, and no mortal mind could possibly do such a thing.
Ayise does have formal priests, who get their power the way all the other priests do. But unlike any other god except Niami, she can call on followers that use a different order of magic if she needs to. Druids don't worship Ayise, but they WILL obey her if she calls on them to perform a task, if only because she controls their power. For that matter, just about ANYONE would obey Ayise if she ordered them to do something...hehehe.
Then again, most Druids don't even know about this relationship. Only the Hierarchs do, those with a much more intimate connection to the All, and with enough experience to know the truth.
Naturally, I'm sure a bunch of you are already starting to formulate questions about how Tarrin fits into all this, given he's using Ayise's power, and Ayise is more or less his enemy. No doubt just about all of you just said "wait a minute, if Ayise controls the All, she could kill Tarrin instantly just about any time she wants, because he's actively linked to the All," and you'd be right. The answers aren't exactly simple, nor can I give them without spoiling future plotline events.
Yes, Ayise could have killed Tarrin at any time before he left Sennadar for Pyrosia.
But no, she did not do it.
Why? Well, the simple answer is that killing Tarrin would have destroyed a large portion of the regional geography, something she would do only as a last resort.
The complicated answer is that she didn't do it because she didn't feel it was the proper time. She didn't feel it was quite right to do it yet, always waiting until she was certain that it was the proper thing to do...but that time never came, and now he's beyond her ability to harm him. Something stayed her hand, and the reason for this will be explained in the third book.
There, I answered your question, and I'm sure I just made you think up a bunch more, so I'm gonna be evil and run away now and make you sit there and stew in angry silence. ;)
Besides, I have a psychology test in the morning, and it's time to study. ;)
Druids are INDIRECTLY the priests of Ayise, the goddess of creation. They tap into the All, which is nothing but the energy of Ayise that resides within the world, and amplified by the presence of life. They're using Ayise's power, but not directly...think of Druids as leeches that have managed to learn how to siphon off one aspect Ayise's power without her direct blessing. Ayise doesn't directly sponsor the Druids, but she's aware of them and allows them to touch her power, mainly because they're very careful about how they use it, and it tends to kill the ones that aren't. As long as they continue to approach Druidic magic with the same respect for its power, she'll continue to allow them to do it.
That is why nothing is impossible where Druidic magic is concerned...because they're accessing the power of the goddess the created the universe.
There's an All in Pyrosia too, the physical aspect of the power of the Elder god of that world. As those of you who read the last chapter know, Tarrin has considered trying to tap that power and use it to stop the Demon Lord, but he also knows it'll kill him. The All in Pyrosia doesn't have the sentient will behind it that the All in Sennadar DOES, because that sentience is an aspect of Ayise's allowing the Druids to use her power. The hand of Ayise guides every Druidic spell, it is HER that the Druids find in their minds when they're feeling the All touch them to read their image and intent. The All of Pyrosia lacks this sentience, because the Elder God of Pyrosia is either asleep, dead, or no longer cares about the world he created. That's why it would kill Tarrin to touch the All of Pyrosia, because HE would have to provide that guidance for the power, and no mortal mind could possibly do such a thing.
Ayise does have formal priests, who get their power the way all the other priests do. But unlike any other god except Niami, she can call on followers that use a different order of magic if she needs to. Druids don't worship Ayise, but they WILL obey her if she calls on them to perform a task, if only because she controls their power. For that matter, just about ANYONE would obey Ayise if she ordered them to do something...hehehe.
Then again, most Druids don't even know about this relationship. Only the Hierarchs do, those with a much more intimate connection to the All, and with enough experience to know the truth.
Naturally, I'm sure a bunch of you are already starting to formulate questions about how Tarrin fits into all this, given he's using Ayise's power, and Ayise is more or less his enemy. No doubt just about all of you just said "wait a minute, if Ayise controls the All, she could kill Tarrin instantly just about any time she wants, because he's actively linked to the All," and you'd be right. The answers aren't exactly simple, nor can I give them without spoiling future plotline events.
Yes, Ayise could have killed Tarrin at any time before he left Sennadar for Pyrosia.
But no, she did not do it.
Why? Well, the simple answer is that killing Tarrin would have destroyed a large portion of the regional geography, something she would do only as a last resort.
The complicated answer is that she didn't do it because she didn't feel it was the proper time. She didn't feel it was quite right to do it yet, always waiting until she was certain that it was the proper thing to do...but that time never came, and now he's beyond her ability to harm him. Something stayed her hand, and the reason for this will be explained in the third book.
There, I answered your question, and I'm sure I just made you think up a bunch more, so I'm gonna be evil and run away now and make you sit there and stew in angry silence. ;)
Besides, I have a psychology test in the morning, and it's time to study. ;)
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Re: Interesting question.
Hey Fel, something I posted in another thread, but no one has responded to it..
Is Tarrin even a "Mortal" WereCat anymore? Would not his true Form(self) be the Fire being he is when he transforms into the dragon and back?
Is Tarrin even a "Mortal" WereCat anymore? Would not his true Form(self) be the Fire being he is when he transforms into the dragon and back?
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Re: Interesting question.
If she tried to use the All to destroy Tarrin, he'd resist it to the point where it'd upset the balance a HELL of a lot more in his destruction than him being around. As the Mi'Shire(fucked up spelling) he'd draw directly from Niami with her permission and that'd truly fuck up the balance.
And since I've done something good for once (Wow!) Can I be on the right end of the Spoon of Doom? Or at least the left side of it?
And since I've done something good for once (Wow!) Can I be on the right end of the Spoon of Doom? Or at least the left side of it?
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Re: Interesting question.
Actually that is an interesting point .While I still believe that Tarrin would eventually die, the backlash would be greater than the one between the shadow of Val and Tarrin. That is if Tarring used his divine energy as well as sorcery to battle the all bearing down on him.
I had an idea now that seems interesting about Tarrin non being able to surive the all of Pyrosia because he is a mortal, yet can communicate with Niami, I wonder if Tarrin could channel Neames mind or at least use his power as a bridge and have her use the energy. Or would that be against the rules or something. Remember in Book Five (Weavespinner) Niami used Tarrin as a point to contest with Val for a while If I remember. Could she use him as a point of referance to control the energy of the All?
I had an idea now that seems interesting about Tarrin non being able to surive the all of Pyrosia because he is a mortal, yet can communicate with Niami, I wonder if Tarrin could channel Neames mind or at least use his power as a bridge and have her use the energy. Or would that be against the rules or something. Remember in Book Five (Weavespinner) Niami used Tarrin as a point to contest with Val for a while If I remember. Could she use him as a point of referance to control the energy of the All?