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Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:14 pm
by Hearly
Ok, I'm bored at work so I have been re-reading parts of Subjugation...
Kimdori, it seems the Faey seem to be subservant to them, I'm wondering if the Kimdori are the true power in the Universe/Faey Government....
The Sister, I think is that Human Girl that was taken away, Lorna is too good a choice, but Jason mentioned her, so I took her off my list...
Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:28 pm
by ANTIcarrot
Well, if you assume that Jason's 'sword' is his telepathy (which we've been told is his only real weapon against the faey) then the 'sister' woudl be a [FEMALE HUMAN]* telepath. Either the one who was taken away or Temeka.
*Possible my worst typo ever.

Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:25 pm
by Hearly
ANTIcarrot wrote:Well, if you assume that Jason's 'sword' is his telepathy (which we've been told is his only real weapon against the faey) then the 'sister' woudl be a Faey telepath. Either the one who was taken away or Temeka.
The way I took it, was that She'll get introduced by way of it seeming that she is fighting Jason, hence the Sword, but is really joining forces with him, the sword could be literal or metaphorical (sp?)
I took sister to mean Human Female...
Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:43 am
by Phantom
Hearly wrote:ANTIcarrot wrote:Well, if you assume that Jason's 'sword' is his telepathy (which we've been told is his only real weapon against the faey) then the 'sister' woudl be a Faey telepath. Either the one who was taken away or Temeka.
The way I took it, was that She'll get introduced by way of it seeming that she is fighting Jason, hence the Sword, but is really joining forces with him, the sword could be literal or metaphorical (sp?)
I took sister to mean Human Female...
as you I'm not quite sure as yet just what the Sword will be ....The Exomech is Toast, History, lost to all .....so we can be sure that wasn't it.
How ever Jason has studied it ....could he build a better model himself ?
like you I took Sister to mean Human ....But it begs the question is Jason really human himself ?
Are Human Telepaths really human or are they something more ?
Hybrids maybe?
Just How Pissed off is Jason going to be NOW.
Phantom
Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:10 am
by furry_wolf2001b
Sword...
The pen is mightyer then sword it is said.
And the information he uncowerd has culd be visly vielded. (gah my damd spelling)
Sadly so far all he has is his word and his mind to prove it.
(or some one elses mind fore this latest deed)
So to be able to prove and expose the house dealings and get the empire to step in and de thronee huse trillian wuld reqire a sword of truth!
Err, i think i shuld go to sleep now...

Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:54 pm
by Phantom
furry_wolf2001b wrote:Sword...
The pen is mightyer then sword it is said.
And the information he uncowerd has culd be visly vielded. (gah my damd spelling)
Sadly so far all he has is his word and his mind to prove it.
(or some one elses mind fore this latest deed)
So to be able to prove and expose the house dealings and get the empire to step in and de thronee huse trillian wuld reqire a sword of truth!
Err, i think i shuld go to sleep now...

In this Case though I know Truth is a two edged Sword.... it can Cut BOTH WAYS..... but for diffrent reasons.
This Go's Back to the Question of WHY ? ........Answer that and you'll Know what i mean.
Jason Realy needs to answer that question and soon! ...... It could mean the diffrence in everything.
Phantom
Knows more about this then he ough too.....but still Enjoying the Ride.
Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:13 pm
by Texfire
Throw this out there. It requires some assumptions that might be ruled out in further episodes.
Assumption number one, that Jason's "sister" is the female student that expressed and was scooped up by intelligence. It was stated that she was going to be squeezed dry, reprogrammed and used as a weapon by the Faey.
Assumption number two, some elements of the imperial government are aware of Jason now, and tipped off the Trillanes which led to the raid that ended up with the exomech PPG explosion.
Assumption number three, when Jason starts taking action they'll find out that they missed their target. A very effective way of doing so would be taking their reprogrammed human telepath and trying to insert her into the resistance.
The end result of that scenario is Jason's "sister" is reintroduced to the story as an enemy agent, discovered, and turned into a double agent who becomes a "sword" against their enemies. Any thoughts on this scenario?
Tex
Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:38 am
by Phantom
Texfire wrote:Throw this out there. It requires some assumptions that might be ruled out in further episodes.
Assumption number one, that Jason's "sister" is the female student that expressed and was scooped up by intelligence. It was stated that she was going to be squeezed dry, reprogrammed and used as a weapon by the Faey.
Assumption number two, some elements of the imperial government are aware of Jason now, and tipped off the Trillanes which led to the raid that ended up with the exomech PPG explosion.
Assumption number three, when Jason starts taking action they'll find out that they missed their target. A very effective way of doing so would be taking their reprogrammed human telepath and trying to insert her into the resistance.
The end result of that scenario is Jason's "sister" is reintroduced to the story as an enemy agent, discovered, and turned into a double agent who becomes a "sword" against their enemies. Any thoughts on this scenario?
Tex
Ok I'll give away a little bit .....
If the Faey figure out Why the female student has telepathy they will Kill her.
Period ...end of Story ....Game over
It's The WHY...
Also any other human telepaths would be in the same spot if found.
Jason needs to learn Why before they do.
But Jason won't like it one little bit.
Phantom
Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:32 pm
by TStyle
Phantom wrote:
Ok I'll give away a little bit .....
If the Faey figure out Why the female student has telepathy they will Kill her.
Period ...end of Story ....Game over
It's The WHY...
Also any other human telepaths would be in the same spot if found.
Jason needs to learn Why before they do.
But Jason won't like it one little bit.
Phantom
Phantom... you are evil
Of course now you have me wanting to read more Subjugation.
Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:53 pm
by Hearly
TStyle wrote:Phantom wrote:
Ok I'll give away a little bit .....
If the Faey figure out Why the female student has telepathy they will Kill her.
Period ...end of Story ....Game over
It's The WHY...
Also any other human telepaths would be in the same spot if found.
Jason needs to learn Why before they do.
But Jason won't like it one little bit.
Phantom
Phantom... you are evil
Of course now you have me wanting to read more Subjugation.
heh some of us know the Why already..

it was mentioned by fel in Irc

Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:25 pm
by Lochar
You're going to make me go back through a few thousand lines of logs, aren't you?
Now THAT's evil.
Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:15 pm
by Hearly
Lochar wrote:You're going to make me go back through a few thousand lines of logs, aren't you?
Now THAT's evil.
I forwarded it to you in a PM
Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:28 pm
by Phantom
Hearly wrote:TStyle wrote:Phantom wrote:
Ok I'll give away a little bit .....
If the Faey figure out Why the female student has telepathy they will Kill her.
Period ...end of Story ....Game over
It's The WHY...
Also any other human telepaths would be in the same spot if found.
Jason needs to learn Why before they do.
But Jason won't like it one little bit.
Phantom
Phantom... you are evil
Of course now you have me wanting to read more Subjugation.
heh some of us know the Why already..

it was mentioned by fel in Irc


Who do you think asked the Question on IRC ?
unless you missed the updated answers Fel gave about it ?
Phantom
Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:30 pm
by Phantom
Lochar wrote:You're going to make me go back through a few thousand lines of logs, aren't you?
Now THAT's evil.
You keep saying your Bored on Irc so i figured..... Lets give Lochar something to do.
Phantom
Re: Some Thoughts on the Kimdori and other things.
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:43 pm
by Lochar
Phantom wrote:Lochar wrote:You're going to make me go back through a few thousand lines of logs, aren't you?
Now THAT's evil.
You keep saying your Bored on Irc so i figured..... Lets give Lochar something to do.
Phantom
Wait a second, is this some vast conspiracy against me?
I KNEW IT!
Alright, back to your regularly scheduled musings.