Contradiction concerning memory while collared
Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 3:27 pm
Contradiction in Tower of Sorcercy concerning memory while collared
(a conversation between Tarrin and Jesmind)
Who sent you after me?"
"I don't really know," she sighed. "I was careless, and someone managed to use magic against me to hold me still while someone put the collar on me from behind. It was on a deserted street in Goram."
"That's in Tor," Tarrin objected. Tor was a small kingdom on the southern coast, not far from Arkis. It was also almost a thousand leagues to the south and east.
"I know," she said. "I don't have any memory of much after that. Just little images. I remembered you, though, because the Sorceress took off that thrice-damned collar with you in the room. If she'd have left it on, I probably would never have known you existed."
(a conversation between Jula and a priest about Tarrin while collared)
"Ah, yes. You see, the collar only subverts will, not intelligence, memory, or ability. If we give him instructions, he will carry them out. He won't have any choice. He'll know he's being controlled, and rage against it in the tunnels of his own mind, but he will have to obey. He knows what we're talking about right now. He can hear us, and he'll remember it. But he can't do anything about it.
(Tarrin awakening in the temple of Karas after the weave has been cut off)
Blinking his eyes, Tarrin instantly stood up from the filthy straw in which he'd been sitting, and he was angry. Anger wasn't quite the word. Pure, sheer, abject utter rage was a better definition. But instead of going mad and acting like an animal, he focused that sheer rage into his surroundings.
He was in deep trouble. He had indeed heard and remembered everything, so he fully appreciated where he was, and what was standing between him and freedom
(although not entirely despositive, we have a description of the nature of the cat)
Tarrin couldn't lie while speaking in the manner of the Cat. Lying was alien to the Cat, so it had no place in its language. But that didn't stop him from spinning the truth on its edge.
So did Jesmind lie for no apparent pupose or are the properties of the collar in conflict?
(a conversation between Tarrin and Jesmind)
Who sent you after me?"
"I don't really know," she sighed. "I was careless, and someone managed to use magic against me to hold me still while someone put the collar on me from behind. It was on a deserted street in Goram."
"That's in Tor," Tarrin objected. Tor was a small kingdom on the southern coast, not far from Arkis. It was also almost a thousand leagues to the south and east.
"I know," she said. "I don't have any memory of much after that. Just little images. I remembered you, though, because the Sorceress took off that thrice-damned collar with you in the room. If she'd have left it on, I probably would never have known you existed."
(a conversation between Jula and a priest about Tarrin while collared)
"Ah, yes. You see, the collar only subverts will, not intelligence, memory, or ability. If we give him instructions, he will carry them out. He won't have any choice. He'll know he's being controlled, and rage against it in the tunnels of his own mind, but he will have to obey. He knows what we're talking about right now. He can hear us, and he'll remember it. But he can't do anything about it.
(Tarrin awakening in the temple of Karas after the weave has been cut off)
Blinking his eyes, Tarrin instantly stood up from the filthy straw in which he'd been sitting, and he was angry. Anger wasn't quite the word. Pure, sheer, abject utter rage was a better definition. But instead of going mad and acting like an animal, he focused that sheer rage into his surroundings.
He was in deep trouble. He had indeed heard and remembered everything, so he fully appreciated where he was, and what was standing between him and freedom
(although not entirely despositive, we have a description of the nature of the cat)
Tarrin couldn't lie while speaking in the manner of the Cat. Lying was alien to the Cat, so it had no place in its language. But that didn't stop him from spinning the truth on its edge.
So did Jesmind lie for no apparent pupose or are the properties of the collar in conflict?