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Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2025 12:08 pm
by Fel
Every book and short story on the forums were on the list of works pirated by Anthropic to train its AI. Even the one chapter test files were on that list.
I have submitted my info to join the class action lawsuit against them.
I'm not holding my breath, but if I manage to join the class action, I may be looking at a considerable settlement. If I read the information right, I'll be eligible for $3,000 PER PIRATED WORK.
And think about how many works I've put on this forum.
So, in a bit of cosmic irony, I very well end up getting paid for my work after all.
Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2025 2:38 pm
by baldy
Fel, unfortunately you are not the only one who has had other try to profit of their work given freely. Good luck and release the dogs of hell on them.

Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2025 7:10 pm
by ninjafroggie
*laughs in FAFO*
Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2025 8:48 pm
by Isengrim
Frankly, you deserve to be paid for it
Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2025 5:09 pm
by Greymist
Did you need to have asserted any copyright/contract to the use of the works to be part of the lawsuit? I really hope you get a pay day from this (but I'm pessimistic that they'll use any excuse not to pay).
I've been looking through the logs of the site recently and I'm pretty sure everyone and their dog (Meta - Facebook, TenCent, Alicloud, and I'm sure a bunch of other west and east AI companies I didn't see) are training their models on the content of this site - any every other site out there.
Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 2:33 am
by Blacktiger
Fel, that would be awesome. You definitively deserve to receive compensation for more than 20 years of enriching our lives with your beautiful imagination!!!
I hope, just in case you manage to secure a settlement, that those moneys are non-taxable ? Perhaps you should consider talking to an expert, if it looks like you will benefit from this case.....
I wouldn't want your local IRS to beat down your front door.

Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 3:47 am
by ninjafroggie
oh its definitely taxable. Still, several hundred works at 3k a pop is gonna be a substantial amount of money even after the tax man takes his cut
Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:09 pm
by Wolfee
Fel,
You don’t seem dismayed to be paid even in this case? I know you have stated in the past that you didn’t want to publish your work. At least if it was published on Amazon and KU you would find a larger audience to enjoy you hobby. I imagine the anger I would feel to have my work copied in such a manner… I think it would be amazing if you where to take the chance and cash in on your hard work and publish your books.
There are small digital publishing houses out there that specialize in publishing on Amazon and KU.
Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 8:14 pm
by kyli
I don't know where I personally stand overall on AI copyright issue. I don't want creators screwed over, but China doesn't care and is grabbing all the data they can. If the only companies that get punished are western AI companies, Chinese AI companies will have a leg up on them. But, I don't like Anthropic, and want to see Fel get paid either way.
Wolfee wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:09 pm
Fel,
You don’t seem dismayed to be paid even in this case? I know you have stated in the past that you didn’t want to publish your work. At least if it was published on Amazon and KU you would find a larger audience to enjoy you hobby. I imagine the anger I would feel to have my work copied in such a manner… I think it would be amazing if you where to take the chance and cash in on your hard work and publish your books.
There are small digital publishing houses out there that specialize in publishing on Amazon and KU.
From my understanding, it would be easy to publish on Amazon. As far as I know, there are no downsides, as long as you stay away from KU. KU is where the real money is, but it's an exclusive contract and would require deleting the books from here and sennadar.com
Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 8:26 pm
by kyli
Actually looked into it more and they intentionally used pirated books, not just scraped the web. Definitely not on the fence on that.
Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:03 am
by mbeau
Greymist wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 5:09 pm
Did you need to have asserted any copyright/contract to the use of the works to be part of the lawsuit? I really hope you get a pay day from this (but I'm pessimistic that they'll use any excuse not to pay).
I've been looking through the logs of the site recently and I'm pretty sure everyone and their dog (Meta - Facebook, TenCent, Alicloud, and I'm sure a bunch of other west and east AI companies I didn't see) are training their models on the content of this site - any every other site out there.
Nope. Copyright is automatically granted to the creator as soon as it is created.
Registering it offers additional benefits, but there is no need to ask for copyright.
Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:46 pm
by Wolfee
Actually Kyle, I kind of think KU is the smart play. You can take something out of KU if you want, yes it is exclusive, but I have been a KU member for years and it saves me money and lets me contribute to the authors I read. But leaving it in KU and collecting the monthly payments would provide a modest check each month.
Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:37 am
by Lochar
KU would require any story published there to be pulled from all other sites. I'd still buy/read again all of Fels stories though.
Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 9:05 pm
by kyli
Wolfee wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:46 pm
Actually Kyle, I kind of think KU is the smart play. You can take something out of KU if you want, yes it is exclusive, but I have been a KU member for years and it saves me money and lets me contribute to the authors I read. But leaving it in KU and collecting the monthly payments would provide a modest check each month.
It's smart, only if the goal is to just go for maximum profit. But Fel couldn't provide anything he puts on KU anywhere else, even for free. Selling the books on Amazon WITHOUT KU would still let him make some money and expand his audience if he's interested in that, without taking down any copies here or elsewhere.
While it's not as effective, it is way less limiting.
Re: Regarding the Anthropic AI lawsuit
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:33 pm
by Wolfee
kyli wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 9:05 pm
Wolfee wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:46 pm
Actually Kyle, I kind of think KU is the smart play. You can take something out of KU if you want, yes it is exclusive, but I have been a KU member for years and it saves me money and lets me contribute to the authors I read. But leaving it in KU and collecting the monthly payments would provide a modest check each month.
It's smart, only if the goal is to just go for maximum profit. But Fel couldn't provide anything he puts on KU anywhere else, even for free. Selling the books on Amazon WITHOUT KU would still let him make some money and expand his audience if he's interested in that, without taking down any copies here or elsewhere.
While it's not as effective, it is way less limiting.
Yes that would be better cause if he would publish I would actually buy his books. I do a lot of flying around the holidays (airliner WiFi still sucks most of the time) and work in buildings that have no cell signal. So having the book offline would be amazing.