Pyrosia, "open" or "closed" to non-Sennadar types?

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Pyrosia, "open" or "closed" to non-Sennadar types?

Post by Not a ID » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:09 pm

Sennadar is a "closed world" and prior to Pyrosia, was evidently the only world with Sorcerers on it, and thus the only world with a weave. But as Pyrosia has a weave thanks to Tarrin. That raises the question as to what status Pyrosia has in regards to being "open" or "closed" beyond it being something of "a backdoor" way into Sennadar?

As it was made clear that the presence of a weave strengthens ALL forms of magic on a world. Assuming Pyrosia remains open to visitors, what are the odds that sorcery is going to find its way to other worlds now, with deities on those respective worlds "helping" the process along? Tarrin has demonstrated it is possible to initiate one even on a non-prime world(as a mortal no less), so it wouldn't be completely shocking to find an Elder God(or younger for that matter) somewhere that might be game for the attempt if one of his younger gods reports back on it. Or is there a prohibition about that out there on the part of the Overgod to prevent this or is this a matter of no deity trying because "they don't like the risks?"

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Re: Pyrosia, "open" or "closed" to non-Sennadar types?

Post by Fel » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:29 pm

That would depend on Niami.

Remember that Niami "sponsors" the Weave on Pyrosia, the Weave there is linked back to her. In a way, it allows her to extend her reach and influence into a second plane of existence, and usually that's frowned upon by Him due to the immense power of a Prime Elder God.

To put it in perspective, Niami has 10% of the power of a normal Elder god because Ayise divided her power among her and her family, and yet even at one tenth the power, she's still far more powerful than the Elder god of Pyrosia, who retains ALL the power of his plane. That's the stark difference between a normal material plane and one of the seven Primes.

The reason it was left be is because of the *ahem* relationship between Niami and the Elder God of Pyrosia. Odds are, if Niami tried to extend the Weave into another plane, the God of Gods would have something to say about it.
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Re: Pyrosia, "open" or "closed" to non-Sennadar types?

Post by Not a ID » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:29 am

Well, in this particular case the operative part would be:
Assuming Pyrosia remains open to visitors, what are the odds that sorcery is going to find its way to other worlds now, with deities on those respective worlds "helping" the process along? Tarrin has demonstrated it is possible to initiate one even on a non-prime world(as a mortal no less), so it wouldn't be completely shocking to find an Elder God(or younger for that matter) somewhere that might be game for the attempt if one of his younger gods reports back on it.
Niami being prohibited from expanding her sphere of influence on her own initiative was more or less understood, because she's an Elder God from a Prime world. But if adding a weave to their world amps up the magic of their world(and their priests), and potentially passing along some other perks to that world's gods as their power is a reflection of the power available to their followers(younger gods)/in their realm(elder gods) it would seem to be something of a "no brainer" for at least another Deity to get curious about it and at least make the attempt for their own realm.

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Fel wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:29 pm
Remember that Niami "sponsors" the Weave on Pyrosia, the Weave there is linked back to her. In a way, it allows her to extend her reach and influence into a second plane of existence, and usually that's frowned upon by Him due to the immense power of a Prime Elder God.
That wasn't completely clear from what I recall in my recent reading of the books.

Tarrin created the Weave on Pyrosia, that is clear.
He then "reached out" to Niami to allow her to "set the rules for the weave" on Pyrosia. Which also was clear.

That Niami is "an ongoing sponsor of the weave" on Pyrosia isn't quite so transparent, particularly after "Tarrin's shadow" ascended. Yes, she has a presence there, but she has "a relationship" with Tarrin that could account for that as well, meaning her presence was a matter of courtesy/respect/convenience rather than necessity.

His "reaching for Niami" could be accounted for by his having had a God's power, but only a mortal's understanding, so a Deity's knowledge was needed "to do the fine tuning" as it were. Meaning it could have been possible for "a proper Deity" to do so on their own without Niami's help.

Now as to the finer points as it pertains to Sui'kun, having sorcers, and everything else, now that could potentially require Niami to be involved at least in the initial stages, as she's the only one with those at her disposal.

But if in order to have a Weave, a world has to allow for Niami's presence to be there as well, THAT would likely explain why other Deities aren't lining up for the chance to have one. There probably aren't that many Elder Gods who are amenable to the idea of inviting the Elder God from a Prime world to come look over their shoulder for the rest of eternity.

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