Earth Bond Timeline doesn't make sense Also Magic (Spoilers)

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Earth Bond Timeline doesn't make sense Also Magic (Spoilers)

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Timeline...

Ok, so before Camelot Earth Dragons were Revered by the other Dragons now after they Razed Camelot, the ended up getting persecuted by the church, now Kell in either chapter 1 or 2, said he's 62 years old and barely considered an adult, so to convert that into Human terms he'd be 17-18.. now with how Humans live to 60-80 on avg, the dragon life then at min has to be around 250-300 years.. If this is so, I don't understand how the Earth Dragons don't have any type of knowledge from Camelot days. I mean it would have only been 2 at most 3 generations.. I could see if it was 10+ generations, but 2-3 would mean Kel's Grandfather/Great Grandfather would have been alive during the Camelot days...

Magic..

Ok Earth Dragons are what Radiate Magic which other dragons and Human magicians use, Now how can the other Dragons even use magic right now, Or Even Fly...

Also the Chromatics seem to be very dumb at least in Council with how magic works, seems like the same issue with the timeline, and with them being more scholars they would have all this information and know why magic is failing...
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The issue with magic is fairly simple, you just missed it when reading, or at least I think so. Think of 'the world' almost like a sink, with the Earth Dragon's like large faucet. Simply put, they put MORE magic into the world than naturally drains away, so over time the 'sink' has filled with magic. However there is no plug blockign the magic fading away, and the Earth Dragon's have all gone underground (aka turning of the Faucet) so now magic is slowly draining away with no new magic being added. Simply they are using 'old magic' that is not being replenished.

As for Earth Dragon ages, last chapter they were mentioned as living to a bit over 150 or so years. 'Barely considered an adult' to me seems more likely 21-22 instead of 17-18, but that's another issue. As for the time line about how everybody forgot, note that First of her Class is very confused about that herself. MY theory is that the chromatic's cast some kind of spell but we will have to see.
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Earth dragon life expectancy around 175-200 or so years. Jengo, the oldest earth dragon ever, is 303, and he outlived the last "oldest earth dragon ever" by 50 years. The last record holder died at 252.

So, in actuality, about 7-9 generations of earth dragons have come and gone since Camelot (1600 years, 175-200 years per generation, give or take). Even with record keeping, that's long enough for things to change over time, or be forgotten. Especially when it comes to earth dragons, who have a habit of not writing something down that's considered common knowledge at the time.

As to how dragons and everyone else can use magic, it's because the earth, air, water, etc, even living things, build up a "charge" of ambient magical energy. Magic's been running off this residual magic since the earth dragons went underground, but it decays at a constant rate of acceleration if there's nobody there to renew it. That's how the chromatics were able to calculate when the spells would fail, by developing a mathematical formula that expresses the decay rate. That's also why the driftlight reignited when it was brought close to Sella. She'd just come from Sanctuary City, and as such was carrying around a stronger "charge" of magic after being around the earth dragons.

Now, as to why the chromatics, and nobody else, seem to understand something so basic as where magic comes from, that was deliberate. Way back when, the secret of the earth dragons and their direct connection to magic was intentionally purged out of history, to protect the earth dragons AND magic itself from crusading magic-haters that got the bright idea that to remove magic from the world, all one had to do was wipe out the earth dragons. It was a secret that only a handful of dragons knew, but time, accidents, and bad luck caused them to fail to pass that secret on. When they died, the secret died with them.

That book first of her class recovered from the library is the only written record in the entire world with that information. It was the only book that wasn't purged, as a last resort in case something disastrous happened and the secret was forgotten. It's how Essan knew about the book, even if he didn't know what was in it, and why it's languished in the chromatic's most exclusive library, but hasn't been read. A spell was placed over the book long ago that made dragons overlook it, hiding the book in plain sight. But that spell failed as well as most others, which was why first of her class was able to find it...and that failure of magic was a drastic emergency dire enough for the book to come out of hiding and allow itself to be read.
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so the book still has some magic in it ?
and maybe a direct connection to gaia ?
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Fel wrote:Earth dragon life expectancy around 175-200 or so years. Jengo, the oldest earth dragon ever, is 303, and he outlived the last "oldest earth dragon ever" by 50 years. The last record holder died at 252.

So, in actuality, about 7-9 generations of earth dragons have come and gone since Camelot (1600 years, 175-200 years per generation, give or take). Even with record keeping, that's long enough for things to change over time, or be forgotten. Especially when it comes to earth dragons, who have a habit of not writing something down that's considered common knowledge at the time.

As to how dragons and everyone else can use magic, it's because the earth, air, water, etc, even living things, build up a "charge" of ambient magical energy. Magic's been running off this residual magic since the earth dragons went underground, but it decays at a constant rate of acceleration if there's nobody there to renew it. That's how the chromatics were able to calculate when the spells would fail, by developing a mathematical formula that expresses the decay rate. That's also why the driftlight reignited when it was brought close to Sella. She'd just come from Sanctuary City, and as such was carrying around a stronger "charge" of magic after being around the earth dragons.

Now, as to why the chromatics, and nobody else, seem to understand something so basic as where magic comes from, that was deliberate. Way back when, the secret of the earth dragons and their direct connection to magic was intentionally purged out of history, to protect the earth dragons AND magic itself from crusading magic-haters that got the bright idea that to remove magic from the world, all one had to do was wipe out the earth dragons. It was a secret that only a handful of dragons knew, but time, accidents, and bad luck caused them to fail to pass that secret on. When they died, the secret died with them.

That book first of her class recovered from the library is the only written record in the entire world with that information. It was the only book that wasn't purged, as a last resort in case something disastrous happened and the secret was forgotten. It's how Essan knew about the book, even if he didn't know what was in it, and why it's languished in the chromatic's most exclusive library, but hasn't been read. A spell was placed over the book long ago that made dragons overlook it, hiding the book in plain sight. But that spell failed as well as most others, which was why first of her class was able to find it...and that failure of magic was a drastic emergency dire enough for the book to come out of hiding and allow itself to be read.
I see where I got confused, I always thought the time period considered for Camelot was around 1200-1400 area.. not 400-500 AD area.. I just thought it was the 1200-1400 area also considering that in 300-500ad the Catholic Church didn't have the type of Power it did in 11th-13th century to suppress/destroy history/legends of dragons...
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