Outlandish Theories? Spoilers for Subjugation and Sennadar universes

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Not a ID wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:50 am I'm still keeping my "money" on the "Prime World" for the Subjugation Universe being in the Kypan Void not too far removed from Earth.
My money would be on Earth. Humans are somewhat common in the multiverse and Earth has Humans.
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kyli wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:21 pm
Not a ID wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:50 am I'm still keeping my "money" on the "Prime World" for the Subjugation Universe being in the Kypan Void not too far removed from Earth.
My money would be on Earth. Humans are somewhat common in the multiverse and Earth has Humans.
As I think about it, that could work, but only if the Kypan Void is, in fact, a void. And I'm still dubious of that.

Hadn't considered the matter that while the Faey seem to keep turning up in this setting(and are, in fact modified humans) the humans themselves are rather absent from the wider stage. Of course, this completely wild theory runs into problems with the matter that Humans evolved on Earth in this universe.

It could be those religious extremists are "the first evolution" of humans in the Subjugation Universe and through some means they were initially from the region of space that now hosts the Kypan Void. How and why they ended up where they are is another entirely different can of worms at that point. Especially as it both relates to the matter of how Earth was left in place, and the backstory on the Faey being a primitive sub-race of telepathic humans when their history diverged from that of the human's on Earth. Unless that happened at some point after the "banishment" happened to the first group.

But could also suggest the Kimdori may have a "secret" they're keeping about the humans in that world/universe which we haven't been made aware of yet. And while certain Kimdori had previously professed ignorance of Humans prior to the Faey finding the world, there is possibly more to that story. In any case, I'm expecting the Kimdori have some secrets they've been keeping, even from their cousins, which relate to at least some of the "Revelations" that are going to be made.
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I just reread Unification and had two thoughts about Tarrin. The first is Jason's communications technician Gerin - positioned well to observe, but a" minor" side character.

My other thought is a Major departure from all of the discussion to this point on the subject, and raises a host of new interesting topics for debate:

Amber, the Vulpar kit.

Delivered by Miaari at a nearly impossibly young age, it is never said where Miaari got the kit or who the mother is. Perfectly positioned to be in the middle of Everything surrounding Jason.
Could Miaari (or Denmother?) be an agent of the God of Gods? Could the discussion here about humans be closer to home than thought? Could the Kimdori be keepers of such massive secrets as to where the Faey and Humans come from (both transplanted from who knows where)? What is in the archives of the Hearth that even Denmother Zaa doesn't know? So many questions.
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Amber's personality is very different from Tarrin. I also think Tarrin would choose to remain male even if he did take the form of an animal.
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miraborn wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:11 amCould Miaari (or Denmother?) be an agent of the God of Gods?
Possible, it's even probably someone among the Kimdori is an agent for the God of Gods, but it doesn't have to be the Denmother. We have precedence for that with Tarrin's story itself. The agents of the God of Gods don't serve as heads of the organizations on their respective worlds. (Which also better allows them to come and go) But while the Denmother herself may not be that agent, it doesn't mean she's unaware of who the agent is.
Could the discussion here about humans be closer to home than thought? Could the Kimdori be keepers of such massive secrets as to where the Faey and Humans come from (both transplanted from who knows where)?
As I recall, Fel has estabilshed Earth is, in fact, Earth for those humans. They did come from there. The Faey, in turn, came from Earth(Terra) in its distant past as well. They didn't come "from somewhere else." So any explanation of things has to hold that as a constant. Any Humans or Faey encountered in the wider universe all ultimately hail from Earth. So a backstory would need to be generated to account for how the humans in (insert location here) managed to get from Earth to where they are, and why there are (presumably) no signs of their departure from Earth.
What is in the archives of the Hearth that even Denmother Zaa doesn't know? So many questions.
Not possible to know at this time.
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Anyone read revelation chapter 6? Jason's eye colour change!!!! Getting pretty interesting
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The end of ch. 7 worries me. Those Ulala are shady. I don't trust them one bit. It seems like Jason feels the same way, but it also seems like he is underestimating their cunning. It seems like they have the duplicitousness of the Faey turned up to 11.
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Yeah, they are more than a bit suspicious. And yeah, remember how...fractured and scheming the Fey are even after Jason and the empress have stamped down on that sort of thing. These super advanced versions who have super advanced tech...yeah, I'm a bit worried, though Jason seems to be trying to keep an eye on them.

We will see how this all plays out I guess.
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Shady?

Keep an eye on them?

Silly puppies, you forget something.

She's coming to Karis.

Who is on Karis?

Miaari.

Why do you think Jason wanted her to come to him? Not to show her Karis, but to get her within reach of a Kimdori.
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Fel wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 8:56 pm Shady?

Keep an eye on them?

Silly puppies, you forget something.

She's coming to Karis.

Who is on Karis?

Miaari.

Why do you think Jason wanted her to come to him? Not to show her Karis, but to get her within reach of a Kimdori.
Ooooooooh you can say that. You just can't!!! I soooo need the next chapter now.

Also I don't know why I didn't think of that. I definitely should have. I blame the fact that to avoid insanity, I don't think about the story much between chapters.
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