Good Grief

[Omegano]

Lemme see, for those programmer geeks out there: Which is worse?

1. Trying to figure out someone else's code
2. Trying to figure out someone else's code written from a LOUSY spec
3. Trying to figure out a LOUSY programmer's code written from a LOUSY spec

I'm flowcharting #3 tonight. i'm in hell.

MommyDoom

Ouch! I count myself lucky I have only had to deal with #1... Granted, I'm still in school, and the most complicated thing I have dealt with is a second-year game engine... Oh, wait. I correct myself. I have dealt with #4:

4. Trying to figure out a programmer's code who specializes in a completely different type of code, and tries to make it function like that type, using a LOUSY spec....
(IE, a Networking and Windows programmer trying to make an basic game engine from scratch, using his own takes on how an engine should be built. He made the entire thing function like a cross between Windows code, and a Networking system... The Engine my second year game team made was better, AND made more sense...)


Also, have been here for about 4.5 years, and have made only 21 posts...

Omegano

[DigitalMaestro]

Lemme see, for those programmer geeks out there: Which is worse?

1. Trying to figure out someone else's code
2. Trying to figure out someone else's code written from a LOUSY spec
3. Trying to figure out a LOUSY programmer's code written from a LOUSY spec

I'm flowcharting #3 tonight. i'm in hell.

MommyDoom

I feel your pain. Luckily, I only have to deal with my own code these days. Independent contracting has it's benefits.

-DM

[RedManX]

6+ years.....37 posts I'm disapointed.... seeing as in 6 years I've checked this form 4+ times a week


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[arargh]

They're killin' me at work and I don't suspect I'll be around much till Fel starts writing more Sennadar/Shadow Walker stuff. Lemme see, for those programmer geeks out there: Which is worse?

1. Trying to figure out someone else's code
2. Trying to figure out someone else's code written from a LOUSY spec
3. Trying to figure out a LOUSY programmer's code written from a LOUSY spec

I'm flowcharting #3 tonight. i'm in hell.
MommyDoom

They are all bad, but 2 & 3 are worse. 3 should have never been allowed to happen.

Usually in this sort of situation, I feed the code thru a compiler, and read the assembler output, or worse case deassemble the output. Between the two, I an usually figure out what the code is doing.

Now, what it is supposed to be doing is a different matter.

[dellstart]

This link may shed some light on the subject http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/c ... oblems.asp

[Weresmilodon]

>7 years... and before that several years on the old forums.

Damn, this means I've been hosting the forums for over 7 years.

Yeah, that's kinda how i feel too. Yeesh, how long have we been around? A decade? More?

When did Mommydoom change name? What year?

Huh. At least 7 years on this board and 1 or 2 on the old board at least. And I have no clue when Fel dubbed me MommyDoom but it was at least a year before we moved over here. And, I am far more judicious in my postings, I see. Only 307.
They're killin' me at work and I don't suspect I'll be around much till Fel starts writing more Sennadar/Shadow Walker stuff. Lemme see, for those programmer geeks out there: Which is worse?

1. Trying to figure out someone else's code
2. Trying to figure out someone else's code written from a LOUSY spec
3. Trying to figure out a LOUSY programmer's code written from a LOUSY spec

I'm flowcharting #3 tonight. i'm in hell.

MommyDoom

Nine years or so... I remember that i made the Mommydoom joke when you first became pregnant, and i'd been a member at that forum for at least a few months at that time...

Yeesh, where does the time go?

[MommyDoom]

Yeah, that's kinda how i feel too. Yeesh, how long have we been around? A decade? More?

When did Mommydoom change name? What year?

Huh. At least 7 years on this board and 1 or 2 on the old board at least. And I have no clue when Fel dubbed me MommyDoom but it was at least a year before we moved over here. And, I am far more judicious in my postings, I see. Only 307.
MommyDoom

Nine years or so... I remember that i made the Mommydoom joke when you first became pregnant, and i'd been a member at that forum for at least a few months at that time...

Yeesh, where does the time go?

Was that you? Oh yes, now I remember. then Fel came back with the Spoon of Doom comment....

[Fiferguy]

Well there's also the fact that Fifer just has to keep teasing Spec8472


Phantom

I LOVE to mess with Spec...

[Lochar]

Spec was the one that gave me my avatar as well. Can't quite remember the reason anymore though...

[Isengrim]

Lemme see, for those programmer geeks out there: Which is worse?

1. Trying to figure out someone else's code
2. Trying to figure out someone else's code written from a LOUSY spec
3. Trying to figure out a LOUSY programmer's code written from a LOUSY spec

I'm flowcharting #3 tonight. i'm in hell.

MommyDoom

Ouch! I count myself lucky I have only had to deal with #1... Granted, I'm still in school, and the most complicated thing I have dealt with is a second-year game engine... Oh, wait. I correct myself. I have dealt with #4:

4. Trying to figure out a programmer's code who specializes in a completely different type of code, and tries to make it function like that type, using a LOUSY spec....
(IE, a Networking and Windows programmer trying to make an basic game engine from scratch, using his own takes on how an engine should be built. He made the entire thing function like a cross between Windows code, and a Networking system... The Engine my second year game team made was better, AND made more sense...)


Also, have been here for about 4.5 years, and have made only 21 posts...

Omegano

#3 really shouldn't be permitted.

Having said that I've seen #5.

5. Trying to understanding code that has been modified at least two dozen times by a dozen different people over six years. When all of them were willing to do whatever it took to make the code work, and none of them were programmers. None of them had even heard of code standards. The damn thing is full of statements like "if 1=0", "if username = tim" where "Tim" hasn't been with the company for years, and statements that undo what the previous line did.

[fortress]

I just have to reply since I saw the Tarutaru avatar.

Next month is my 2 year anniversary of retiring / selling my FFXI toon, best decision I ever made lol. I ended up selling my main for ~$2000

[Greymist]

From memory I've been reading Fel's books for 12+ years.

I know I started using IRC when I was around 12, I'm 27 now and I'm going to assume I bumped into Fel (online) when I was 15.

[Fawks]

Ok... How old is Fel? I've never come across an age. I always assumed that he was in his early to mid twenties with him talking about college. When did he start posting his stories.

Mmmm.... A story about the life and times of Fel. That might be interesting.

[Fawks]

/me feels lost. My coding knowledge ended with windows programing. I had lots of fun in COBOL, Pascal & GWBASIC. I did a little tinkering with SQL. C++, C# and 95% of the web coding leave me in the dust.

So much for a BS in Computer Information Systems.

[DigitalMaestro]

I had lots of fun in COBOL, Pascal & GWBASIC.

My municipal govt would love to employ you. lol. They have a bunch of servers running COBOL but all the techs who know it are retiring or dead. The whole "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is gonna destroy our infrastructure if they don't find a few more people versed in it soon.

-DM