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House fighting

Post by SYED » Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:31 pm

now he is a noble he is able to fight as gurilla and noble, what rules does he have to follow. His objective is to slowly change the imperium and kepp the nobles, high born, from breaking off. he has a base under imperial protection for food and ship engines that make day journeys seconds. he could create a lot of havoc, best bet set the houses against each other, and alien races against houses, keep from alliances and dependant on the empress.
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Re: House fighting

Post by Hearly » Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:38 pm

SYED wrote:now he is a noble he is able to fight as gurilla and noble, what rules does he have to follow. His objective is to slowly change the imperium and kepp the nobles, high born, from breaking off. he has a base under imperial protection for food and ship engines that make day journeys seconds. he could create a lot of havoc, best bet set the houses against each other, and alien races against houses, keep from alliances and dependant on the empress.
I think that would be against what Jason would want to happen, When houses fight wars it's the Commoners on the streets who end up being hurt the most.

Now Ya Fel used it in the Sennadar series, but I really think something along the lines of United Kingdom would work the best at least for the time being..

Jason said in 1 chapter to Jyslin, Faey don't believe in anything, Not there Gods, not there Government, etc...

What Jason has to do, is get the Commoners involved somehow in how the government treats them and eliminate the "noble" advantage/greed

Once they get involved, they will have Faith, which would be something Jason could work for..

He's doing the same thing with Humans, by giving them Self-Determination
He's allowing them to pretty much Run themselves with a "King" as President (himself) to oversee things, but I bet the UN will be able to Override him just like the House/Senate (us Govt) can override a President..

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Re: House fighting

Post by Astardis » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:34 pm

Jason will have to structure something like a two pronged attack. First, there is earth and his idea of a mostly democratic structure with him as a figure head and with only some (hopefully) power.
Building up the UN as legislature head and the old countries as federal states makes sense since those structures aren't totally forgotten and may be salvageable and helps the people to get some sense of rightness back.
Therefore, several things will have to be take care off, like the independance of countries like the kosovo, tibet, thaiwan and several african countries where the actual borders aren't between differend tribes and people but relicts of the imperialism.

The second path for Jason, is his status as a faey noble. Official, the faey empress only "loaned" House Karinne earth, and that could be theoretically revoked. Jason has to be a good noble, juggling his duty to the humans and their right of independance and his duty to the faey.
It would be nice to know, how the other non faey planets are controlled by their own non faey nobility. Do they have only "loans" from the empress as well, or do they have a more permanent solution. It probably might be problematic if a loan is terminated and a faey house with other ideas of political structures gets to rule.

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Re: House fighting

Post by Mizriath » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:14 am

I did read somewhere that Dahnai said that there are rules when Noble houses declare war on each other. Well that Rule of Engagement was never spelt out but obviously noble houses can be wiped out. About the use of Omega weapons, this must definitely come more of a conclusion of last resort.

To declare war, I believe the house must declare it publicly similar to what Jason did for Earth when he declare war on Trillane. But the ending, I thought was when the insignia ring is recovered. So since Jason has not gotten back his insignia ring, he is technically still at war with Trillane. He must either end the war and Trillane accepts it or Dahnai proclaim the war between the houses is over. Since Jason has gone through the SIANN charter, I believe he knows the rules of engagement.

The war of the houses may not amount to civil war. Civil war is on a larger scale when the Imperium is fully involved. The war of the houses now between Karinne and Trillane may still be ongoing, but other houses may have joined the fight and chose sides.

It also could possibly be House Dorrane and House Enalle will also declare war on House Trillane since they found out that they have been hoodwinked and robbed blind.

The plot is never ending. Jason will still come out with crazy ideas cause to him it works but within the borders of the rules of Engagement.
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Re: House fighting

Post by Quindo Ma » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:14 am

Hearly wrote:He's allowing them to pretty much Run themselves with a "King" as President (himself) to oversee things, but I bet the UN will be able to Override him just like the House/Senate (us Govt) can override a President..
Actually, no, Fel already stated that Jason will have total control over everything, but let the UN rule as they desire. Only when the UN start doing things he doesn't like, Jason will interfere and stop the nonsense.
He might wish to end it the other way around, but he cannot afford it at this point. If the rest of Earth do something stupid, it's Jason who will get blamed, therefor he must be at the top making sure nothing goes wrong.

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Re: House fighting

Post by Halcyon » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:39 pm

Quindo Ma wrote:
Hearly wrote:He's allowing them to pretty much Run themselves with a "King" as President (himself) to oversee things, but I bet the UN will be able to Override him just like the House/Senate (us Govt) can override a President..
Actually, no, Fel already stated that Jason will have total control over everything, but let the UN rule as they desire. Only when the UN start doing things he doesn't like, Jason will interfere and stop the nonsense.
He might wish to end it the other way around, but he cannot afford it at this point. If the rest of Earth do something stupid, it's Jason who will get blamed, therefor he must be at the top making sure nothing goes wrong.
Yeah, else things could get pretty hairy for Jason. Let's say that the UN decided that the people of Earth should no longer farm for the Faey. Obviously, this could result in Jason losing Earth to another house for not meeting their production quota. The new house could just disband the UN again and make things bad for everyone, undoing everything Jason has already fought so hard for.
So as someone ultimately responsible for their well being, Jason has to be ultimately responsible for what they do, especially when it means he's keeping the people of Earth safe. Hence the whole total control thing.

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Re: House fighting

Post by ANTIcarrot » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:16 pm

One of the first things Jason needs to do is prove he can act like a Noble. Up until now he's been a trickster. He needs to do one or two really ruthless things, however much he might not want to, in order to gain their respect, and the required amount of fear.

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Re: House fighting

Post by SYED » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:01 pm

the highbornne, trillane, in partticula have assets or positions dedicated to their military, all he has todo is weaken them enough over all, so other houses will continue the attacks. they like sharkes, if they see weasnesses, they attack, if they begin to smell blood, chomp. idea send marbles to all trillane stations, use kumi to send it as familly treasure, imagine all long term space born positions of trillane taken out
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Re: House fighting

Post by Dimwit » Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:26 pm

Jason has inherited a nitemare and it won't be easy to solve. His structure has to appeal to the rank and file -- a democracy? a republic? a monarchy? It could be any of them or something else. Whatever it is it has to curry favour quickly and then he has to watch out for the inevitable black ops team from Trilliane that will try to sabotage his efforts at every turn. At the same time he has to appease the Empress. Not easy.

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