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Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:21 pm
by expedient
kyli wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:31 pm There is a 3rd possibly here though. Jason doesn't die but instead escapes by an alternative method while everyone thinks he's dead.
This does all look to be building into a big reveal. I wonder if the Parri shaman will pop by to offer some words of wisdom before Jason heads off or will he reassure his family with cryptic advice when the plan goes to pieces?

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:46 pm
by GotToGo
Wow a lot of you are very negative on Jason surviving. I feel it will be harrowing extraction and he might end up injured but will survive.

I know one thing above all else, Fel is going to surprise us!!!!!

More to the point wasn't that a very powerful ending to a chapter?

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:37 pm
by kyli
Ok, 4th option, and the one I'm currently favoring. Jason succeeds and survives, but he goes off plan when he feels a Dreamer very near the meeting place. Instead of escaping, he rescues her/him.

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:47 am
by Fel
Wow, I should sell the end of the arc to the highest bidder.

So, who's willing to pay to have the arc end the way you want to, eh? Do I hear 2 bitcoins for Jason to survive? 3 bitcoins for him to die? 5 bitcoins for him going Super Saiyan?

Hell, how about 10 bitcoins for Tarrin showing up to Deus Ex Machina the arc?

I CAN DO IT, YOU KNOW!

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:51 am
by Kacoo
I'm pretty sure Jason's gonna be going on a journey of self discovery soon, :D it's set up well for it.

Also Fel, that's would be awesome, Tarrin shows up in the crowd on the Benga planet as Jason is running away from the hq building. :lol:

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:42 am
by Not a ID
Fel wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:47 amHell, how about 10 bitcoins for Tarrin showing up to Deus Ex Machina the arc?
I've already kind of wondered if Tarrin hasn't already surfaced within the Subjugation Universe at some point in the past, even if he didn't happen to appear within the story itself. As you did drop of a mention about his having been to worlds where they traveled in ships between the stars themselves.

That said, with what Tarrin's mandate typically is, I don't know that "Giant Crater" where the Benga Board is meeting currently exists on the agenda. There also is the matter of the Benga possibly "being a threat to the balance," which means killing the board probably wouldn't be going far enough for Tarrin.

Besides which, with the gestalt Jason is likely to be walking in there with, he probably wouldn't even need the spiders, he could just kill them all with his TK.

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:53 am
by kyli
Unfortunately, I surely don't have 10 bitcoins ($50000+), but I'm starting a petition right here for you to give us a legitimate Tarrin and Jason scene in Subjugation, just out of the kindness of your heart. Anyone who wants to see this, leave a post with #TarrinInSubjugation in it.

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:32 am
by Fel
Not a ID wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:42 amBesides which, with the gestalt Jason is likely to be walking in there with, he probably wouldn't even need the spiders, he could just kill them all with his TK.
Keep this in mind. It will become important later. ;)

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:21 am
by Fel
kyli wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:53 am Unfortunately, I surely don't have 10 bitcoins ($50000+), but I'm starting a petition right here for you to give us a legitimate Tarrin and Jason scene in Subjugation, just out of the kindness of your heart. Anyone who wants to see this, leave a post with #TarrinInSubjugation in it.
You assume Jason lives past this arc. ;)

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:30 am
by kyli
Fel wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:21 am
kyli wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:53 am Unfortunately, I surely don't have 10 bitcoins ($50000+), but I'm starting a petition right here for you to give us a legitimate Tarrin and Jason scene in Subjugation, just out of the kindness of your heart. Anyone who wants to see this, leave a post with #TarrinInSubjugation in it.
You assume Jason lives past this arc. ;)
5th theory, Tarrin kills Jason because he will shift the Balance to far toward Good!!! #TarrinInSubjugation

In all seriousness, I'm 100% sure Jason is gonna live, (unless you change it just to spite this comment) but that doesn't mean he isn't gonna die. As I said in the first comment, you killed Tarrin more than once.

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:36 am
by RobJ
Masochism and stress are unbecoming. That's all I have to say :D Other than that Fel's at his bloody brilliant best :)

Regards,
RobJ

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:09 am
by imthejman85
I already hypothesized Jason dying and being brought back in some way. It wouldn't surprise me if he bit a plasma blast to the chest at this point. I would love to see a cross over scene between Jason and Tarrin though. In the long run isn't Jason more powerful in the abstract sense compared to Tarrins' literal sense though? Tarrin is a planet buster. Jason has the potential to be a galaxy buster!

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:57 am
by Belgarion213
Fel wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:32 am
Not a ID wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:42 amBesides which, with the gestalt Jason is likely to be walking in there with, he probably wouldn't even need the spiders, he could just kill them all with his TK.
Keep this in mind. It will become important later. ;)
...That's kind of statement is worrying. Though wasn't there a scene with one of the Kahrines opening a microscopic wormhole with a gestalt? The one Jason has and iwth his increased training during this arc...maybe he will do that and end up on some planet in the back end of nowhere...

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:18 pm
by Not a ID
kyli wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:30 am 5th theory, Tarrin kills Jason because he will shift the Balance to far toward Good!!! #TarrinInSubjugation
Unlikely. By the Sennadar standard, the Kimdori are probably some flavor of Entropic. Which means Jason is as well. ;)

And on that note:
Theory number 6: Kreel is an allter-ego of the OverGod. Also, either Miranda or Kikali(sp?) might be wandering around as well.

Re: Retrubution Chapter 10 [Spoilers]

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:59 pm
by Omegano
Not a ID wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:18 pm Theory number 6: Kreel is an allter-ego of the OverGod.
Kreel took too much of a direct action in the path of an entire race to be an alter-ego of Him. That would have been awesome, though. Now I'm trying to think of who could be an alter-ego, but Jason would make almost anyone that wasn't seemingly just a one-off character too involved to be an alter-ego. Yet there have been enough one-offs with the same amount of detail (or more) as Cassiter (sp?) that make the list not small.

As for Jason meeting Tarrin... There are few ways I see that ending well for Jason, mostly because there are few reasons for Tarrin to be there that would be good for Jason. And if it isn't good for Jason, then meeting Tarrin probably isn't going to end well. As in either "being the target" or "collateral damage" not well... Or Jason just gets in the way because Tarrin isn't being nice and Jason needs to be good... most encounters just don't end well. :(

I also think Jason likely won't survive this plan. But that doesn't mean he will stay dead. Or he might not actually die, but seem to die as someone else suggested. Plenty of options, but SOMETHING is going to not go to plan. The thing that actually sealed that fact for me? Jason successfully got Kraal and Miaari to revoke the oath that would have killed them. Retroactively, anyway. After reading the entire chapter, realizing THAT, I reasoned that Fel needed to have the oath revoked so he COULD die. Otherwise no more Kraal and Miaari. This also binds Miaari to the Karinnes, which is something Jason wanted anyway. :P

Omegano