SYED wrote:In addition, they can use this system and fleet, to keep the syndicate full attention while the kimdori go after those dreamers that were stolen away. They went from a population of millions to thousands. It might not even be a viable number. They can't be locked into VR all the time, as they need them breeding. Also, they are still a very tricky all telepathic race that the benga needs to keep in check.
So it is likely all remaining dreamers will be gathered in one central and secure location. And they will be desperate for telepaths to man the operation. So I am seeing a snatch and grab operation.
Why so complicated? As a civilization that is capable of faster-than-light-travel, I would be surprised if they didn't know how to clone a person. Given that they still have thousands of dreamers spread out on ships - and probably one or more safeguarded dna repositories of usefull species hidden away somewhere - the Kimdori will have their hands full to track those and all related research down.
I just know there is a lot of secret research in combining and/or crossbreeding races with usefull attributes going on. Sort of like the Founders of Deep Space 9, who mainly worked through at least two known artificially created races in their war with the Federation.
In fact, why the heck aren't they using programmed robots in combat? Although they would be less effective than people with brains, given their numbers they could just work with overwhelming-by-numbers strategies of any enemy who isn't that much more advanced than you. And given that they own most of their galaxy, I would have expected more slave races fighting on their side as well. It should be easy - stick a trained slave in combat armor, trust him out the airlock and his chance of survival is reduced to kill-enemy-before-he-kills-you.
Pretty sure they don't trust most of their slave races enough to let them fight in battle. I mean we are talking about a species that is even less trusting than humans if that is even possible. As for robots... even if they had true AI which based on the theme of the entire series anyone that doesn't have biogenic technology really doesn't have true AI... they would be less combat effective than you'd think. True AI at least could grow past their programming and become more effective with time, but the much more limited AI the Benga would be forced to use would require new program updates any time something changed with new tech or new strategy for either side of the conflict. The additional limitations of needing ways to provide instructions and program updates mean that you may well be able to find a way to hack them or at least isolate them from the main system. Just watch Episode 2 of Star Wars and ignore that you hate the movie and consider the limitations of the Droid army. Short of Jason deploying an army of Biogenic robots (and those would be way to expensive to make an effective army anyway)... those problems are universal. That is after all, the reason that despite so many idiots trying to push drones onto the US military that they still haven't replaced manned planes. Robots might be effective at suppressing locals with a weaker tech base, but would prove unreliable as a front line army. Just my opinion though. Also, the Benga don't strike me as particularly concerned with losing tens of thousands of their own people to secure victory.... which means less incentive to bother with robots.
As for cloning, yes they probably could clone the Dreamers. However, it is possible that considering how much effort they went to in securing the Dreamers from their enemies they never set aside DNA samples for cloning. I mean they took extreme measures to ensure that the Consortium never even knew that they existed. And on top of that they still had an absurdly massive fleet sitting around in that system as a just in case. Any effort they did which removed the dreamers (or their DNA) from the moon beyond the ones that get sent to the fleet raised the chances of their existence being discovered... it IS possible the Benga in charge of the Syndicate may well have gone overboard on the secrecy because until Jason came along the idea that anyone would be able to steal the Dreamers (alive OR dead) from them was almost certainly considered beyond absurd.
Also, suggesting that they have thousands of dreamers on ships is probably an overstatement. They only seem to place them on their mega super ships for fleet commands. It's unlikely that even if they have millions of ships that they actually have very many not on the moon. If you use the fleet they sent to our galaxy as an example, they had 30 thousand ships but only one oracle. They might have hundreds, but I doubt they have more than a few thousand oracles on their ships and it's probably lower. I mean the more they deployed to the front line the greater chance their enemies will learn of their existence. And with their QE computers they have instant galactic communication (intergalactic really) so one ship can coordinate using that oracle effectively which it reduces the need for multiple oracles quite a bit. Good chance that only Fleet Commanders like Sha Ra actually even knew about the oracles, maybe her direct subordinates but not much further than that. At best I imagine they likely only have 1 oracle for every ten thousand ships or so, which means even with over a million ships they probably don't have more than a couple hundred. Which if they don't have a DNA database from their species is not enough to maintain a viable population long term.
Edit: Wow, that was longer than I thought. TLDR version: It's probably they can't clone the Dreamers because they didn't conceive they might ever need to, droids aren't effective as front line combatants, and they probably have noticeably under a thousand dreamers left on ships.