Revolution Ch 6 - (SPOILERS)

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Re: Revolution Ch 6 - (SPOILERS)

Post by Wolfee » Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:33 pm

GotToGo wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:06 am
Wolfee wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:23 pm
Not a ID wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:56 pm
I'm going to have to go back and check, but I very vaguely recall that some Generations were reported to have died on the Farms. As the FMS presumably verified/reported those deaths, and the FMS was believed to be neutral(and thus reliable) on the matter, they may not have dug much further on the matter. Now to go back and dig through the earlier volumes and see what was mentioned in regards to their search for the Human Generations.

If through sheer dumb (bad) luck one of "early patients" had been a Generation, they might have activated many of the generation abilities by accident, and attributed the outcome to the experiment, at least until Jason happened.

It also would explain why the experiment seems to have been carried out on so many people, because it worked on at least one of the humans...
Did Fel ever say what happened to the Human who expressed while Jason was in school in the first few chapters of book 1?

Either that or the FMS has their own version of Joseph Mengele running around in the background. Or maybe their own version of a black ops biology team to study the "primitive" humans. This may go deeper down the rabbit hole than we think. Lets just hope that the Faey religious leaders aren't some how tied into this... that would be all kinds of bad.
Wolfee and Not a ID,

My worst case Scenario goes way back, which is that the upper level(s) of the FMS were instrumental in the pushing the Faey Houses in the original destruction of Karis to destroy the Generations!

Then even Songa, at her FMS high level, could not get passed the FMS restriction on the data. Also, why the only some of the Farm Workers were restricted to Faey Doctors only which bring to mind - any Faey Doc or only a hand picked few?
Your worst case scenario is pretty grim indeed. Several weeks ago I had a passing thought about how the FMS might have viewed the the Karrines, but was in the midst of writing my final semester paper for my masters and let the thought fly out the other ear. I certainly did not follow that thought all the way back to such a grim possibility. Good job! Interesting indeed! Hopefully Fel will give us an update on chapter 7 or release it soon. I must say looking forward to it.

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Re: Revolution Ch 6 - (SPOILERS)

Post by Not a ID » Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:38 pm

GotToGo wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:17 pm
kyli wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:37 pm
GotToGo wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:05 pm


Kyle, it's the dream that rules out so many other options. What else fits?
What I mean is that the dream is about something else entirely and has nothing to do with the FMS or the situation on Earth.
Since this a Spoiler Page, I thought you might have option that I missed. Take care.
I'm starting to think that:
GotToGo wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:06 am
My worst case Scenario goes way back, which is that the upper level(s) of the FMS were instrumental in the pushing the Faey Houses in the original destruction of Karis to destroy the Generations!

Then even Songa, at her FMS high level, could not get passed the FMS restriction on the data. Also, why the only some of the Farm Workers were restricted to Faey Doctors only which bring to mind - any Faey Doc or only a hand picked few?
Is likely to be the valid path forward. IIRC, Fel suggested the "Revolution" would strike "closer to home," and you can't get much closer than right on Jason's doorstep, in the form of a conflag with the FMS on the part of House Karrine would certainly fit that bill.

The imagery with the Dragon being the FMS also potentially works in a "sleeping dragon" kind of context. They established long ago that the FMS is virtually untouchable within Faye Society, and it's a tradition dating back thousands of years. So moving openly against them, or even covertly for that matter, is something that you do at your own peril. ("Waking the dragon")

I kind of like the theory that the FMS is actually the one who set in motion the events that led to the near extermination of House Karrine the last time around. They probably caught wind of the Generations project, and likely a number of other medical(/biological) research projects they felt encroached upon "their turf"and potentially threatened it, with the Karrinne University actually being one such "threat" to them.

The Kimdori investigating what went on with the humans on those farms and how it relates to the FMS is potentially going to dig up a number of other skeletons along the way. Some of which may not truly be dead, even a thousand+ years later.

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Re: Revolution Ch 6 - (SPOILERS)

Post by GotToGo » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:57 pm

Are we missing something important? I'm sure we are! Are the Trillanes envolved in someway? Etc.

Now we wait on Chapter 7....

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Re: Revolution Ch 6 - (SPOILERS)

Post by Not a ID » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:57 pm

I doubt the Trillanes are knowingly involved in whatever the FMS was getting up to on Earth during it's occupation. Their role, if anything, was more likely to be one along the lines of deliberate neglect. In that they simply didn't care much about what happened to the Humans, so long as their quotas were met.

How they responded to Jason's activities in the first books tends to demonstrate to me they weren't overly concerned with "the value of human life" all things considered. Which would make for a prime opportunity for someone looking to do a bit of "black medical research" and not need to be overly worried about other authority figures getting curious about people disappearing.

Pair that with how Faye Society in general treats the FMS and they essentially had a license to kill humans at will without fear of anybody calling them out.

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Re: Revolution Ch 6 - (SPOILERS)

Post by Not a ID » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:03 pm

Thought this should see a mention over here as well:
Fel wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:52 am
I should have a LOT to put up in a one or two weeks.

Last chapter, I introduced Kevin Ball and what he's doing over in the game, and this chapter of Revolution will reveal the end of the Grand Crusade and what happens during and after the final battle.

I don't want to spoil that ending in Revolution. I want Kevin's story to reveal that ending.

So, over the last couple of weeks or so, I've been busting my tail working on Kevin's story, and once I finish it up to a certain point, I'm going to release both the next chapter of Revolution and 7-8 chapters of the short story about Kevin, CO, and what happens to him.

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Re: Revolution Ch 6 - (SPOILERS)

Post by GotToGo » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:52 pm

Not a ID wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:57 pm
I doubt the Trillanes are knowingly involved in whatever the FMS was getting up to on Earth during it's occupation. Their role, if anything, was more likely to be one along the lines of deliberate neglect. In that they simply didn't care much about what happened to the Humans, so long as their quotas were met.

How they responded to Jason's activities in the first books tends to demonstrate to me they weren't overly concerned with "the value of human life" all things considered. Which would make for a prime opportunity for someone looking to do a bit of "black medical research" and not need to be overly worried about other authority figures getting curious about people disappearing.

Pair that with how Faye Society in general treats the FMS and they essentially had a license to kill humans at will without fear of anybody calling them out.
My thoughts are that the FMS weren't really envolved, until Jason showed up as a Generation. The Trillanes are a dark horse that maybe supporting the current FMS efforts and is just one of my many possible plots and sources, these and many others are all running through my warped brain!

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Re: Revolution Ch 6 - (SPOILERS)

Post by Not a ID » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:22 am

GotToGo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:52 pm
Not a ID wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:57 pm
I doubt the Trillanes are knowingly involved in whatever the FMS was getting up to on Earth during it's occupation. Their role, if anything, was more likely to be one along the lines of deliberate neglect. In that they simply didn't care much about what happened to the Humans, so long as their quotas were met.
My thoughts are that the FMS weren't really envolved, until Jason showed up as a Generation. The Trillanes are a dark horse that maybe supporting the current FMS efforts and is just one of my many possible plots and sources, these and many others are all running through my warped brain!
If the Trillanes are involved,I'd be highly surprised. That or it involved a very isolated portion of the house.

Jason has since developed a close relationship with that House IIRC, and it is a pretty safe bet that the Kimdori have also been through a LOT of Trillane's stuff during and after the occupation. Something like this should have turned up if it was sanctioned by members in higher levels of the House. The FMS slipping through the cracks would be understandable. House Trillane doing the same on this specific issue would be a monumental failure on the part of the Kimdori.

As such, it is unlikely that any member of high rank in Trillane was involved, at least as a Trillane.

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Re: Revolution Ch 6 - (SPOILERS)

Post by jeffreyC » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:41 am

Not a ID wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:22 am
GotToGo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:52 pm
Not a ID wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:57 pm
I doubt the Trillanes are knowingly involved in whatever the FMS was getting up to on Earth during it's occupation. Their role, if anything, was more likely to be one along the lines of deliberate neglect. In that they simply didn't care much about what happened to the Humans, so long as their quotas were met.
My thoughts are that the FMS weren't really envolved, until Jason showed up as a Generation. The Trillanes are a dark horse that maybe supporting the current FMS efforts and is just one of my many possible plots and sources, these and many others are all running through my warped brain!
If the Trillanes are involved,I'd be highly surprised. That or it involved a very isolated portion of the house.

Jason has since developed a close relationship with that House IIRC, and it is a pretty safe bet that the Kimdori have also been through a LOT of Trillane's stuff during and after the occupation. Something like this should have turned up if it was sanctioned by members in higher levels of the House. The FMS slipping through the cracks would be understandable. House Trillane doing the same on this specific issue would be a monumental failure on the part of the Kimdori.

As such, it is unlikely that any member of high rank in Trillane was involved, at least as a Trillane.
Last I saw Jason would not shed a tear if the Trillanes dropped dead en masse, the only one he had any use for has already changed her name and allegiance to House Karinne.

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Re: Revolution Ch 6 - (SPOILERS)

Post by GotToGo » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:16 am

Not a ID wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:22 am
GotToGo wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:52 pm
Not a ID wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:57 pm
I doubt the Trillanes are knowingly involved in whatever the FMS was getting up to on Earth during it's occupation. Their role, if anything, was more likely to be one along the lines of deliberate neglect. In that they simply didn't care much about what happened to the Humans, so long as their quotas were met.
My thoughts are that the FMS weren't really envolved, until Jason showed up as a Generation. The Trillanes are a dark horse that maybe supporting the current FMS efforts and is just one of my many possible plots and sources, these and many others are all running through my warped brain!
If the Trillanes are involved,I'd be highly surprised. That or it involved a very isolated portion of the house.

Jason has since developed a close relationship with that House IIRC, and it is a pretty safe bet that the Kimdori have also been through a LOT of Trillane's stuff during and after the occupation. Something like this should have turned up if it was sanctioned by members in higher levels of the House. The FMS slipping through the cracks would be understandable. House Trillane doing the same on this specific issue would be a monumental failure on the part of the Kimdori.

As such, it is unlikely that any member of high rank in Trillane was involved, at least as a Trillane.
Am I getting that old that the term "Dark Horse" is past it's time?

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